Hi plainfacedgirl, welcome to VENTS! How have you been?
I’ve been fabulous! Thank you for asking.
Can you talk to us more about your latest video “pickup”?
Of course! First of all, I love cartoons. I love the endless possibilities in a cartoon world. I’ve always wanted to make my own cartoon world, so I’m glad this video worked out. When I first heard the beat for ‘pickup’ my friend Nick Groat sent me, I had a vision of me riding in a pickup truck in space. A not so budget friendly video idea, but a cool SpaceX vibe that I needed to manifest. Then, one day Ryan Kostopoulos’ amazing animations popped up on my Instagram timeline and I realized he could create that world for me. So I messaged him and here we are.
Did any event in particular inspire you to write this song?
I went through a really sad time with someone I love very much. We were in a place that felt so sour and unfixable. It really felt like we were stuck in a little busted spaceship falling and inevitably crashing.
How was the filming process and experience behind the video?
Honestly so amazing. Ryan is one of those men that makes female artists feel so comfortable, supported, and inspired. He got some studio time for us at his job, and we filmed most of the day. Then, I gave him my vision for the background and he just made it come to life. it was one of the most effortless projects I’ve ever worked on.
“pickup” comes off your latest album doubledutch – what’s the story behind the title?
I kind of made up the word ‘dutch’ to describe how I feel about my gender fluidity. It’s a combination of the words ‘dutchess’ and ‘butch’. I don’t feel like either of those words alone describe what I’m about in a general sense, but I definitely dabble in both feminine and masculine energies on a daily basis. The word ‘double’ just added something hot and nostalgic for me.
How was the recording and writing process?
A crazy ride for sure. I’m very critical of myself, but I had a lot of people supporting me throughout the process. My producers Aidan Brody, Nick Groat, Jesse Levines, and Trey Kams genuinely believed in me and what I had to say. They are all such good friends to me, and they all just happen to be absurdly talented.
Would you call this a departure from your previous musical work?
Yes! For sure. I’ve written so many songs that I will most likely never show anyone because I now see them as practice. I know they needed to be written, but they definitely didn’t need to be released into the world. Once I started working with Aidan Brody, my music was bumped up to another level. I’m so proud of what we’ve created with such a small budget and open minds.
What role does Detroit play in your music?
I grew up very close to Detroit in the suburbs of Chicago, and I remember taking road trips there for hockey games. I’ts an amazing city with so much music and culture. My music absolutely wouldn’t be the same without The Supremes, Aretha Franklin, Stevie Wonder, J Dilla, Eminem, and so many more people that were so innovative. I’m very grateful for Detroit and its honest roots.
What aspect of relationships did you get to explore on this record?
I really dove deep into who I am as a partner and a friend, and I realized that I am pretty tough to love. then I realized, we are all pretty tough to love. I thought love and friendships were the way I had always seen them on TV, but there is so much more to humans than a laugh track or background music. we are so inexplicably deep, and I’m excited to keep learning about us.
What made you want to use all these different personas to convey all these messages?
When I was growing up, I would use my clothes to express myself. I feel like people could tell what mood I was in based on my fit. I think that transfers into my music. Each song is like a different outfit, so each song needs a different persona. I’ve always wanted to make a visual album that has characters and themes and a plot, but I’m just not there yet financially.
Where else did you find the inspiration for the songs and lyrics?
Mostly past relationships. doubledutch was written during a very introspective time in my life. I have dated a lot of people, but there was really only one person that has ever respectfully made me look at myself. doubledutch to me feels like if of all my past love interests sat in a room and roasted me.
Any plans to hit the road?
Yes! I’m doing a mini-tour around the east coast called the “girls like you tour” starting mid-November. I’m so excited to take on a few new cities with my outrageously talented friends Emilia Ali and Maria Ellis.
What else is happening next in plainfacedgirl’s world?
I’m always going to be writing and acting a fool, so you just gotta stay tuned. ☺