So great, thank you. It always is when you’re about to release an album. It’s probably the most exciting time ever for musicians.
Can you talk to us more about your latest single “Times A Liar”?
Time’s a Liar. You know when you suddenly realize it’s June and you’re pretty sure yesterday was January? Or how time just speeds you up and seems to go so fast and when you were younger it seemed like a week used be so long. It doesn’t make sense to me. I wanted the song to capture that old time feeling. Like it could have been written in a much older decade.
Did any event in particular inspire you to write this song?
I was in Colorado talking with my Grandma Carole Bourdo. She’s a well known painter. She’s rubbing her hands, which have been hard working hands, her whole life and saying; ‘One thing about getting older, is that you look at your wrinkled hands and think, who do these belong to? They can’t be mine because I feel young in my spirit.’ – I’m paraphrasing, of course, because I’ve told the story a hundred times and I can’t remember her words exactly, anymore.
How was the filming process and experience behind the video?
FW Really cool. My Auntie Amanda filmed it in New Zealand at my mum’s house. My Grandma Carole Bourdo is actually in the video and she was visiting at the same time for another Aunties wedding. Wesley and I had given Amanda our demos to listen to and she really loved the song. We had recorded ‘Time’s a Liar’ to a click, which meant, even though the key of the song changed and some vocal inflections changed, in the studio, we were able to sing it in time, well enough for her to work with. A lot of the album wasn’t recorded to a click track but we made sure to keep ‘Time’s a Liar’ the same tempo, as the demo, because the video was made before the album, which is an unusual process.
The single comes off your new album This Little Town – what’s the story behind the title?
FW ‘This Little Town’ is a song on the album. Inspired by living in a town that has grown so much over the last few years, that it is unrecognizable now.
How was the recording and writing process?
FW I loved making this album. It was more stripped back than anything I’ve done before. Less musicians, too. I think in the past, I’ve been so interested in layering everything and making things sound full and this record was really about presenting the bare bones of songs. It’s a little bit ‘Emperor’s new clothes’ in that way. I often wondered if it needed to be bigger but that was the beauty of having a producer make those calls. I’m really glad that it’s as honest as it it.
What was it like to work with Ryan Hadlock and how did that relationship develop?
FW It was really great. Ryan’s like what I would imagine working with Yoda would be. His engineer Taylor, has been working with him for years and they’re a well oiled machine. They don’t bother finishing each other’s sentences because they already know what the other means. If I could go in tomorrow and make a new album, with Ryan and Taylor, I would. The studio is really comfortable and the vibe is perfect for us. The idea of being surrounded by trees and green, is really nice too. A ton of studios are dark and Bear Creek has beautiful natural light. Ryan has a very laid back style of producing. He had great ideas in mind for instrumentation and he gave us back the best versions of ourselves, sonically. Such a nice guy to be around, too.
How much did he get to influence the album?
FW A ton. The whole point of wanting to work with him, was to have the opportunity to hand songs over and have someone else help shape our sound. We had talked with him about wanting the album to be pretty folky compared to our last album, which was more on the Americana/ country sound. We handed him about fifteen songs and he picked through them. He picked songs I didn’t think were the best ones, which was awesome. Having a different perspective, was really nice.
What were some of the social and personal changes did you get to explore on this record? Where else did you find the inspiration for the songs and lyrics?
FW; With ‘Time’s a Liar,’ Funnily enough, sitting at Wesley’s Grandma’s house. Wesley’s Grandma Gilda had photos of Wesley’s Grandpa out, a few months after he passed. We were listening to the old stories and looking through the photos and I think. ‘Sitting at the table rubbing old hands, the clock ticks for old loves gone by’ probably came from that moment. The photo album in the music video is my Grandad in the New Zealand Army and the old hands are my Grandmas.’
There’s a song about a fire that happened in our town on Main Street. and Wesley based the artwork on an old photograph he found of Main Street Bothell, in the 1890s and he drew it. I think it’s beautiful to have that contrast of old and new. Especially since ‘This Little Town’ is really influenced by how our town has grown so rapidly. There are songs on the album inspired by love, death and dreaming. I think overall, there’s a nod to a nostalgic feeling. Everything in our digital world is very complex and there are some songs of longing for things to be a little bit more simple. Let’s sit around the fire and love each other, instead of looking at our phones. Who’s with me?
Any plans to hit the road?
FW YES. Actually we have a really BIG road trip coming up. Summer is usually pretty busy with local festivals and such but with the album coming out, we wanted to cover more ground than previously. So, we’re about to head out towards North Carolina, from Seattle. That’s right across the middle of the country and back. I’m still booking it like a mad professor. Some places have worked like clockwork and some cities, you can email 26 venues and not hear back. That’s the business of tour booking, though. It’s kind of like playing an adult version of tetris. It’s my dream to hand that side of our business over in the next while, so I can focus on the music. I’d really love to tour Europe. We’re heading back to New Zealand in February too but we’ll only play a handful of shows. We want to spend the time by my mum’s pool, with our Kiwi family.
We toured down to California on our Spring Break through WA, OR and CA and had a great time. I love being on the road. The adventure and the American highways. It’s really so different from New Zealand.
What else is happening next in The W Lovers’ world?
FW Gigs, gigs and more gigs. Summer and fall will have us playing about 20 shows a month, so when it slows down, we’ll have a lot to write about.
I’m looking forward to writing our next album together.